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Do you still believe in God?

by IT Support in

i'm a recent departee and am now re-evaluating all my previous beliefs and there's none more fundamental.

however, i'm not sure where to start: i'm sure i don't need to say there's an enormous amount of nonsense out there.

frankly, in spite of their other stupid teachings, i am considering reviewing again the articles in wt library as i think they do try to sincerely prove the existence of god.

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Nosferatu,

I believe in myself

Do you mind me asking how you reached this conclusion?

Regards,

Ken

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Do you still believe in God?

by IT Support in

i'm a recent departee and am now re-evaluating all my previous beliefs and there's none more fundamental.

however, i'm not sure where to start: i'm sure i don't need to say there's an enormous amount of nonsense out there.

frankly, in spite of their other stupid teachings, i am considering reviewing again the articles in wt library as i think they do try to sincerely prove the existence of god.

IT Support

Amazing,

I still believe in God ... but beyond that, my faith, religious view, opinions, and all that are in total disarray ... ready for complete and total overhaul and rehabilitation.

Join the club: or should I join yours?!

Thanks,

Ken

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Do you still believe in God?

by IT Support in

i'm a recent departee and am now re-evaluating all my previous beliefs and there's none more fundamental.

however, i'm not sure where to start: i'm sure i don't need to say there's an enormous amount of nonsense out there.

frankly, in spite of their other stupid teachings, i am considering reviewing again the articles in wt library as i think they do try to sincerely prove the existence of god.

IT Support

heathen,

I absolutely believe in God. I also believe that all religions are cults.

I'm not sure about all religions being cults. I understood there were specific definitions of cults, e.g.:

· Only cults claim to be God?s exclusive spokesmen on earth, and everyone else is wrong;

· only cults forbid their members from reading other religious literature, especially that written by former members of the religion;

· only cults use guilt to keep their members so busy with daily and weekly programs of study that they have no time to consider other views;

· only cults use fear to try to stop members from leaving by saying only members of their ?religion? will be saved.

Although I've no interest in defending religions, I think there are probably some that do not meet these criteria...

I just can't see all this suffering in the world not having a purpose and to say this miserable existence is all there is in the grand scheme of things is just too overwhelming for me.

It would certainly be nice to be able to believe that.

Thank you,

Ken

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Do you still believe in God?

by IT Support in

i'm a recent departee and am now re-evaluating all my previous beliefs and there's none more fundamental.

however, i'm not sure where to start: i'm sure i don't need to say there's an enormous amount of nonsense out there.

frankly, in spite of their other stupid teachings, i am considering reviewing again the articles in wt library as i think they do try to sincerely prove the existence of god.

IT Support

Nathan,

"Religion is a snare and a racket," as the man said.

You know, that's the first thing I've read of His that wasn't barking mad and that I could wholeheartedly agree with...

Thanks,

Ken

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Do you still believe in God?

by IT Support in

i'm a recent departee and am now re-evaluating all my previous beliefs and there's none more fundamental.

however, i'm not sure where to start: i'm sure i don't need to say there's an enormous amount of nonsense out there.

frankly, in spite of their other stupid teachings, i am considering reviewing again the articles in wt library as i think they do try to sincerely prove the existence of god.

IT Support

Freddy,

My thought is there is an energy force in this universe. And I do think it used an act of creation. Whether that act involved evolution, I am not sure. But I don't believe the bible account is factual. More mythilogical. Surrounding the truth or hiding it, who knows?

What made you come to this conclusion? (Regarding the Bible, I suspect you may be correct, but I'm just taking one step at a time..!)

are we dead when we die or does our God belief change this also?

If God is a supernatural person in 'heaven' then the concept of spirit creatures is within the boundaries of possibility: if there is no god, no divinity, no 'guiding force' beyond natural selection, then death probably is the end of our existence. Or do you think otherwise?

Thanks,

Ken

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Do you still believe in God?

by IT Support in

i'm a recent departee and am now re-evaluating all my previous beliefs and there's none more fundamental.

however, i'm not sure where to start: i'm sure i don't need to say there's an enormous amount of nonsense out there.

frankly, in spite of their other stupid teachings, i am considering reviewing again the articles in wt library as i think they do try to sincerely prove the existence of god.

IT Support

gmfh,

I do simply because of the marvleous designs of many of natures creatures and our own human bodies! I really can't believe that all of these things occurred on there own. However on the same line of thought how would an intelligant creature leave us on this planet to destroy ourselves and make our lives miserable. And why would such an intelligent all knowing designer need to have a "religon" to worship him, or a "bible" to learn about him. It doesn't make sense.

All good points, I can't disagree with any of them.

pop some valley's and dans!

What are these??? Regards, Ken

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Do you still believe in God?

by IT Support in

i'm a recent departee and am now re-evaluating all my previous beliefs and there's none more fundamental.

however, i'm not sure where to start: i'm sure i don't need to say there's an enormous amount of nonsense out there.

frankly, in spite of their other stupid teachings, i am considering reviewing again the articles in wt library as i think they do try to sincerely prove the existence of god.

IT Support

James,

A good place to start is with books about the history of God(s).

Any suggestions?

It is a journey to discover what is at the Center of our Being.

Are you saying that there is a divinity with each one of us? Are there any links to web sites for further reading?

No church or religion needed for this.

I wouldn't have expected otherwise...

attention to Life brings a natural sense of respect, honesty, beauty, love and peace.

I can understand that. Thank you for your post. Regards, Ken

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Do you still believe in God?

by IT Support in

i'm a recent departee and am now re-evaluating all my previous beliefs and there's none more fundamental.

however, i'm not sure where to start: i'm sure i don't need to say there's an enormous amount of nonsense out there.

frankly, in spite of their other stupid teachings, i am considering reviewing again the articles in wt library as i think they do try to sincerely prove the existence of god.

IT Support

happehanna,

since I left JWs I haven't thought about such a basic fundamental. I shall now though.

I'm in a similar situation, having recently left. I'd be interested to hear of your eventual conclusions...

Regards,

Ken

79

Do you still believe in God?

by IT Support in

i'm a recent departee and am now re-evaluating all my previous beliefs and there's none more fundamental.

however, i'm not sure where to start: i'm sure i don't need to say there's an enormous amount of nonsense out there.

frankly, in spite of their other stupid teachings, i am considering reviewing again the articles in wt library as i think they do try to sincerely prove the existence of god.

IT Support

Valis,

In a fantsy world it would be great it you could have a deity that would at least talk back to you or show you some irrefutable proof.

Good point, thanks.

Ken

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Do you still believe in God?

by IT Support in

i'm a recent departee and am now re-evaluating all my previous beliefs and there's none more fundamental.

however, i'm not sure where to start: i'm sure i don't need to say there's an enormous amount of nonsense out there.

frankly, in spite of their other stupid teachings, i am considering reviewing again the articles in wt library as i think they do try to sincerely prove the existence of god.

IT Support

Euphemism,

if there's a God, why not leave us some unmistakable evidence of his/her/its existence?

Sounds reasonable to me.

It's true that we can't completely explain how life and the universe originated. But science is still in its infancy. If you used God to explain what science can't account for, your God would have gotten gradually smaller and smaller and smaller over the last few hundred years.
Nor can I believe that a God who was omnipotent and omniscient could not have created a Universe without suffering.

I know what you mean.

So if there is a God--which I doubt--I can think of him/her/it in terms of a life force, a creative force, the spiritual energy of the Universe, something like that. But not, by any means, the sort of personal God that Christianity teaches.

Interesting, I follow your reasoning.

One last recommendation: if you're really interested in this subject, ignore the Watchtower Library. Go to a real library. You'll find numerous books--by theologians, philosophers, etc--that are far more thoughtful and well-researched than the Watchtower publications.

Any suggestions?

Regards,

Ken